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in february. erin? >> john, thank you very much. up next, four days after the newtown tragedy, the nra has finally broken its silence. it was a total blackout, nothing on twitter, nothing on their web page. they broke it today. >>> and the story of vicky soto. her final moments of heroism from a young man who loved her. before cdw virtualized it. how? cdw and hp networking implemented a virtual application network that reduces the time to deploy cloud applications from months to minutes. with fewer bottlenecks like this. finally. charles! client golf. aim for the lake. really? but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! >>> tonight, we're hearing from the national rifle association. there has been complete silence from the nra. this is the first time we've heard from them since friday. the statement from the nra reads in part, i'll quote you this part first, out of respect f
the second amendment. >> the nra has made a statement today. the key part saying they're prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> don't hold your breath. >> jeffrey, tell me this annoying -- what did he call me, a bucolic brit. as someone who went through, very similar, the children same age killed. which means we only get 35 gun letters a year. it's the same in australia. many european companies have a similar rate. we just don't get how the nr are a is apparently so powerful that it's able to dictate policy on this on the way it does. is that going to change that michael bloomberg came out and said stop being so terrified of the nra. >> i think nra is just as powerful as they have been. and they have all the time in the world. the news media, we have a short attention span. six months from now, we're not going to be covering this story around the clock. but the nra is going to be working even harder. any debate about gun control will start to get bogged down in details which do you band, do you ban magazines and clips? and then it becomes very
manchin, a member of the nra, who says everything should be on the table when it comes to gun laws, all schools in newtown will reopen today, except sandy hook he elementary school which remains an active crime scene. students returning and families, trying to get back to a productive routine. of course, the pain is still, still deep. cnn's sandra endohas our report. >> in the wake of tragedy, a step toward normal see, for newtown kids that means going back to school. >> we also are going to be a little bit worried, because we know what we thought was a secure school had this happen to them. >> reporter: but facing fear may be the first step to overcome this tragedy. >> children have to get back to school. if we let the sort of terror in our lives anywhere in this country, we've lost. we have to get kids back to school again. >> classes resuming for 5,400 students in the district, except for those at sandy hook elementary. monday, all schools closed as teachers and administrators trained with experts on how to handle the aftermath. many parents we spoke with agree, kids belong back in s
. the nra and the republicans who are supported by these groups. they enable mass murderers. ban guns and criminals or people with intent on killing others will have easy access to guns in the black market. ban guns and you leave me, la a law-abiding citizen defenseless. customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. >>> happening now. how can we prevent another newtown? gun control? better mental health services? putting god back in our schools? we will talk with connecticut senator joe lieberman. investigators dig importances. who was the man police say was behind these deadly shootings? this tragedy could have been, if you can believe it, a lot worse if not for the teachers at sandy hook elementary school. they are being calle
the nra to step up and say they believe in gun safety and not just in gun ownership. we need politicians on both sides of the aisle to tackle this problem. we will have more dead american children. >> thank you both very much. still ahead, we will talk to survivors of another shooting, but next the push for more gun control after the tragedy. but now, with zyrtec-d®, i have the proven allergy relief of zyrtec®, plus a powerful decongestant. zyrtec-d® lets me breath freer, so i can love the air. [ male announcer ] zyrtec-d®. behind the pharmacy counter. no prescription needed. >>> these neighborhoods are our neighborhoods. these children are our children. we are going to have to coming to and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this regardless of the toll picks. >> president obama on the shooting. the massacre is raising new questions about the access of guns in america. he is urgently calling for more gun control. a former chief economist on the sentencing commission on more guns, less crime. the president of the campaign to prevent gun violence. the attorney for th
television right now, they don't want to come on. they're hiding away, as are members of the nra and all the usual suspects when these terrible things happen. are you detecting, senator, that there is change in mood? are you hoping this is a tipping point? >> yes, i hope so, piers. i had to do a brief segment on "meet the press" yesterday morning. and afterwards, i probably got 20 phone calls at home here in washington. very unusual, people from washington and california calling and saying we want to help with this. it's got to stop. i even had one man who was a member of the nra who said i have an ar-15, and i'm going to get rid of it. i'm a hunter, and i want you to do something about these assault weapons. so i'm going to do my level best to try. i did it once before in 1993. we sat down and we wrote a bill, and that bill passed the senate. chuck schumer introduced it in the house. it passed. it was not amended. it was passed. and it went to the president. president clinton signed it, and it was the law for ten years. and over time, it began to wind down the supply of these weapons. a
come "outfront" to talk specifics. plus, arizona's attorney general backs a plan reminiscent of the nra to arm school principles. does more guns in schools begin to add up? and the biggest political fumbles. the best of the worst from our politicians. >>> i'm in for erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, christmas is over. washington get back to work. the countdown is on. the clock is ticking. you've got six days to prevent this country from going over the fiscal cliff and today at least, we didn't see any action. nothing. nothing, nada. now, i'm not trying to be a grinch here. i hope everyone's had a merry, merry christmas. just like the president prescribed. >> drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols. >> but today's the 26th. you've drunk, you eaten and you've sung. now is the time for action. the latest news out of washington tonight, treasury secretary tim geithner told congress that the country will hit the debt ceiling on december 31st, new year's eve, some two months earlier than expected. but there is still no date yet on when the house of represent
wife used to be a member of the nra. and we are gun owners and we believe in the ii amendment. but there needs to be a dialogue. our country needs to talk about some type of gun control. i believe that having our citizens armed and licensed to carry. i would carry one in my car and not in my person. i don't think that i would want to face the fact that i would hit a victim. >> we had that shooting at the empire state building where nine people were injured by officers who are well trained in arms. but more guns is not necessarily the answer. >> stricter controls, 40% of the guns that are bought and sold in america are bought and sold without background checks, that is a problem. ever more powerful when you come from the potiposition that you from. thank you both very much. >> thank you for having us, piers. are more guns the answer or less. we'll get into that after the break. americans are always ready to work hard for a better future. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times.
that. >> how do you actually deal with that powerful lobby, the nra, the nra now saying that they are not yet in the debate. they'll comment with had they get all the information from this latest massacre. but we've already had some indications, congressman manchin who says, look, perhaps i will go ahead and suggest to my nra friends that they need to engage and need to take a different approach. is this the moment that that is even possible? >> i hope so because what i hope that we will do is now we'll start looking at facts rather than, you know, emotions. the time for emotions remains with regard to this horrific tragedy, but let's translate into action. and the action depends on facts. why do we have 15 times as much gun homicide as the rest of the world? what can we do about it? what can we learn from other countries that have dealt with some of these issues? why do countries like japan have these extraordinarily low rates of gun home skpooicide and gun ? if we can come up with something sensible -- and frankly, if has to be more far reaching. even the legislation p
dead. they say he set a trap for those firefighters. >>> the nra is standing tough on its opposition to new gun laws in the aftermath of the killings in newtown, connecticut. the ceo went on "meet the press" to defend his call for armed guards in every american school, but here's what a couple of front pages said about wane laperriere. one called him a gun nut and another one headlined with the crazy heest man on earth. laperriere he is not backing down. watch. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people -- i think the american people think it's crazy not to do it. >> there are several lawmakers who are promising to introduce new gun control legislation, and the president formed a new team to come up with ways to limit assault weapons. >>> an idaho senator is apologizing after he was charged with driving under the investment. they arrested senator michael crapo early yesterday after he ran a red light. he failed several field sobriety tests and his blood alcohol level
pole ster to poll gun owners and nra members and you get 70 to 90% common sense issue that we could do to make our country safer. roughly 40% of the guns sold in america are sold in a secondary market private sales. there is no registration at all. you can get someone who can't get on a plane but they can buy weapons. overwhelmingly 84% of gun owners in america believe that should change. changing that alone makes a difference. one out of two women he that are murdered with a gun are murdered with someone that they know well. in states that don't allow people to trade in private gun shows, that number drops by 40%. those people who have domestic violence abuse -- >> you have had a lot of experience with guns in your career it seems to be a natural vice si crisis. you have had six of the worst. there is an escalation that these situations aurora was the wor worst single killing with a gun. is there a national crisis and is the perfect tresident trying register the ownership of guns in a more sensible manner? >> i think the president recognized today in a very appropriate statement that
of news on that subject tonight with president obama laying out a plan of action today and the nra planning to speak on that later this week. for now, people living for the moment. for the families living hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second even. they aare tending to the sadly duty they have to bury the dead and to remember and to honor. daniel barden was always smiling and had two front teeth missing. his dad was a musician and he followed his lead by playing the drums. his family described him as a thoughtful boy when he noticeded kids sitting alone in the lunchroom in school he would join him. in an interview, his dad remembers teaching him to play "jingle bells" on the way to school >> we held hands on the way to the bus. and that was our last morning together. he did get up early that morning and ran down the driveway so he could kiss his brother good-bye in his pajamas. it was 22 degrees. he was exception aexceptional. >> his family says he was a cob stant source of laughter and joy. charlotte bacon was six years old. she had a big personality. she was smart, out
trainer you just saw, and a special education teacher who took that class. >>> the nra is saying schools should decide for themselves how to protect their children. here's what nra president david keen told carol costello yesterday. >> when wayne la pierre spoke about a week ago, he suggested that what has to happen and what should happen in every school district administrators, teachers, parents, should sit down and ask what is needed to protect the children in that school. some of them will want police officers there. others will want private security guards. there may be some places where they want volunteers to do it. we're willing to work with everybody on those questions. >> it's a much softer stance than just one week ago. here's what the nra's executive vp said back then. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. >> at the time, wayne lapierre said armed officers were the only way to prevent another massacre like the one that happened in newtown. >>> president obama summo
the nra to the table in a very sort of high pressure timetable right now? >> reporter: this struck me because when the president was asked about this during questioning, he said that he has faith basically in members of the nra. so making it clear that he's going to be trying to appeal to actual members as mothers and fathers, that he said when you look at the nra, there are a lot of people there who want to be sure that people go through background checks, they want to make sure that kids are safe. he thinks that there is sort of a place where nra members don't want to see military style weapons in the hands of people, a period or might do harm. that was sort of where he was looking and using the bully pulpit. friday, we'll be hearing from the nra for first time. they have been saying no comment. they have remained mum following the shooting in connecticut on friday. but this is just a really a sign now that things are very much heating up here, that we will be hearing from them on friday and that we heard from the president getting specific today, brooke. >> nra releasing a statemen
by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen. will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes a tragedy to make us confront reality. and you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics but take a long look on the laws around guns and not infringing on the second amendment but what reasonable restrictions can be put in place. in the last 24 hours two senators with nra ratings of a, joe manchin and mark warner said this event changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a listen to what senator manchin told christiane amanpour. >> who would have thought in america or anywhere in the world children would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anybody that goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people that need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has second amendment rights and the ability to hunt is part of our culture and i have had an nra rating of an a, but, you know, enough is enough. >> erin, that's the beginning of what may be a significant s
staunch members, staunchly backed by the nra are united in their grief and say they want change to happen, but will it? >> erin, sometimes it takes tragedy to make us confront reality. you are starting to see politicians on both sides of the aisle say maybe now is not the time to rely on ideology or partisan politics put to start taking a long look at the laws that exist around guns. not infringing on the second amendment, but taking a look at what reasonable restrictions can be put in place. in the last 24 hours, two leading southern democratic leaders, joel manchin and mark warner, said this event has changed them and they're open to new solutions. let's take a look at what m manchin told christine amanpour. >> who would think that children in america or anyone would be slaughtered? it changed me. i don't know of anyone who goes hunting with an assault rifle. i don't know people who need 10, 20, 30-round clips. >> i believe every american has a second amendment right and the ability to hunt is part of our culture. i had an nra rating of an "a," but you know, enough is enough. >> so, eri
are recovering from surgery. >>> the moderator of "meet the dress" was interviewing nra vice president wayne lapierre when he brought out something that caught the attention of d.c. police. >> here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. isn't it possible if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said you could only have a magazine that carries five or ten bullets, isn't it just possible we could reduce the carnage in a situation like newtown? >> i don't believe that's going to make one difference. >> it's not known whether that magazine was an authentic clip or just a prop. possessing a large capacity magazine is illegal in the district of columbia. police are investigating. nbc not commenting. >>> guess what it's boxing in the uk, canada and several other country and shoppers are mobbing the stores. these are the crowds in london. the 26th of december is like black friday here in the united states. analysts expect 4 million british shopper also spend nearly $5 billion today, back here at home, it will be a similar scene today as people head to return those unwanted gift
the decision before the nra made the suggestion on friday. they actually had armed guards in some of the schools already. new jersey governor chris christie on the other hand thinks armed guards in schools aren't the answer to gun violence and that problem. >>> to washington now and the negotiations over the fiscal cliff. actually, there really aren't any negotiations now. the president is in hawaii. we're in a bit of a holding pattern as both sides dig in their heels. the middle class and small businesses were the focus during the presidential campaign. but, now, they stand to be the biggest losers as the battle in washington pushes us closer to that cliff. cnn's emily schmidt has more. >> go on. >> reporter: there are people who make overcoming obstacles even those towering 40 vertical feet high look easy. these rock climbers the heart of the climbing center business. >> i think with climbing, you have to trust your partner and you have to know that they're holding your rope. >> reporter: this takes team work which is why she's frustrated of another cliff looming in washington.
with the coalition of gun owners, we used a republican pollster to poll gun owners and nra members, you get from 70 to 90%, depending on the common sense issue we could do that would make our country safer. let me give you one example. roughly 40% of the guns sold in america are sold in what's called the secondary market, in other words, private sales. where there's no federal registration at all, where people with criminal backgrounds, where you could get somebody on the terrorist, no-fly list who can't get on a plane, but could go to the secondary market and buy weapons. overwhelmingly 84% of gun owners -- 82% of gun owners in america believe that should change. changing that alone makes a difference. i'll give you the specific example how. up with out of two women that are murdered with a gun are murdered by someone they know well. in states that don't allow people to trade in private gun sales or gun shows and the like, that number drops by 40%, because the people with the intention to do wrong, or who have a misdemeanor dofl abuse can't buy guns in america, makes people safer. >> you have had
seem just terrified of saying anything that the nra may object to. the nra has four million members. american has 10 billion people living here. i just don't understand why everybody is so coward about publicly debating this and trying to get the measures in place that you've just suggested. >> i think there really has been a seismic change, the political landscape is changing, almost as people react to the horror of beautiful children, babies, really, slaughtered and the teachers and other professionals who came to their aid, putting themselves literally between the bullets and those children. i think that a nerve has been touched and i think that newtown will never be the same but neither will america. and so i think that kind of nerve hitting will be reflected in what happens here in washington. >> are you really sensing, from your colleagues, that this is a tipping point? >> i really am sensing that there is an openness and willingness on the part of a lot of people who never would have considered -- for example, a ban on assault weapons which, as everybody knows, were designed
on that subject tonight with president obama laying out a plan of action today and the nra planning to speak on that later this week. for now, though, fell of this town are focusing on the moment. they're not even focusing on the day but minute by minute. they are tending to the sadly duty they have to bury the dead and to remember and to honor. daniel barden was always smiling and had two front teeth missing. which his parents say he earned in his fearless pursuit of fun and happiness. his dad was a musician and he followed his lead by playing the drums. his family described him as a thoughtful and affectionate boy. whenever he noticed kids sitting alone in the runch room at school, he would join them. in an interview, his dad remembers teaching him to play "jingle bells" on the way to school. >> we held hands on the way to the bus. and that was our last morning together. he did get up early that morning and ran down the driveway so he could kiss his brother good-bye in his pajamas. it was 22 degrees. he was exceptional. >> in his obituary, his family says daniel was a constant source of la
for the nra over the last couple of days to be really disheartening because the statements seemed to not reflect any understanding about the slaughter of children that happened in newtown, connecticut. here's what bothered me. the nra spokespeople have been willing to deal with every possible cause of gun violence except guns. >> in other news the pentagon says joe w. price, leader of s.e.a.l. team 4 was found dead yesterday. the initial conclusion is he committed suicide. the navy is investigating now. >>> hours ago in hawaii senator daniel inouye was laid to rest. he represented hawaii in washington for five decades since hawaii became a state in 1959. the 88-year-old senator was a war hero. he lost his arm. president obama attended the funeral. the president said he was his political inspiration. those are your headlines. i'm don lemon. >>> it was one of the most important diplomatic missions in history. also one of the most clandestine and risky. four decades ago, henry kissinger, then president nixon's national security advise secretly flew to china, beginning a string of mee
obama laying out a plan of action today and the nra planning to speak on that later this week. for now, though, fell of this -- people focus onned on the moment. not living day by day, but for the families living in some case, hour by hour, minute by minute, second by second even. they are tending to the sadly duty they have to bury the dead and to the duty we all have to honor and to remember. daniel barden was just 7, always smiling, had two front teeth missing, which his parents say he earned in his fearless pursuit of fun and happiness. his dad was a musician and he followed his lead by playing the drums. in a mini band he forms with his older brother and sister. his family described him as a thoughtful and affectionate boy. whenever he noticed kids sitting alone in the lunch room at school, he'd always join them. in an interview, his dad remembers teaching him to play "jingle bells" on the way to -- before he went to school last friday morning. >> we held hands on the way to the bus. and that was our last morning together. he did get up early that morning and ran down the driveway
at some of these pro gun rights folks, nra, facebook, crickets have deactivated their facebook site, no tweets. not a lot from them the last couple of days. and we learned according to forbes, we'll have this conversation up next, the bushmaster rifle, a military-style rifle that the shooter used on friday, teachers may have been indirectly giving to this company that makes this rifle. that's next. and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. i'm going to dream about that steak. i'm going to dream about that tiramisu. what a night, huh? but, um, can the test drive be over now? head back to the dealership? [ male announcer ] it's practically yours. but we still need your signature. volkswagen sign then drive is back. and it's never been easier to get a passat. that's the power of german engineering. get $0 down, $0 due at signing, $0 deposit, and $0 first month's payment on any new volkswagen. >>> we are tracking the growing debate over possible new gun control laws. some
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washington, the one place we are not hearing anything about it, zoraida, is from the nra. they've not made a statement sense a written statement on friday. they've suspended their facebook page and twitter feed has remained silent. zoraida? >> emily, i understand you also have new polls to share with us this morning. >> we have three different polls that are really showing a potential spike in public opinion change on this. i want to start with one from cbs news that was taken just over the weekend saying do you think gun control rules should be more strict or less strict? there has been a significant change in this. since more strict, 57% say that now compared to 39% back in april. the amount of people who think the gun control should be less strict has dropped. similar findings from an abc news/"washington post" poll, do you support or oppose stricter gun control laws? take a look at how that number has gone up since august. one more interesting thing, the pugh research center asked people do you think the shootings reflect a larger societal problem in their polls say 47% of americans th
is a former member of the nra. i don't have issue with an american's right to defend themselves in their home. i have a massive issue with the ease that people who are clearly unstable can just get their hands on ar-15s and commit these atrocities. >> you know, listen. at the end of the day, it doesn't matter what i think. and it really, with all due respect, doesn't matter what you think. it matters what the vision is of the american public. you know, we all, as a nation, we know we are better than this. that's why we started this website and this petition, wearebetterthanthis.org. we have shootings in malls and movie theaters and places of worship. we need to have an open, honest conversation of what we can do to solve the problem. the american public, you know, do they think that the answer to violence is more violence? that the answer to guns is more guns? you know, i would love to open that up in the public discourse and have the american public decide because i think what we would find is this issue isn't nearly as polarizing as the reaction of mr. gottlieb would imply. the overwhelming
extremes here, the nra, whose philosophy is if you can see lightning and hear thunder you should get a gun and a liberal who thinks we're going to get rid of 300 million guns. >> during the colorado shooting, the theatre massacre. i went, in 20 minutes was able to buy an ar-15 and all the ammunition that went along with it by just showing a driver's license and feeling out a paper work. >> that's not the problem, a symptom of the problem. americans are scared today, too. when you turn on the tv and every other minute we're listening to shootings in movie theatres, you're wondering can you bring your children to a movie theatre. christmas time you think your family and children are safe at malls. school, texas a&m, virginia tech. now in grammar school. what's happening is we're affecting the psyche of the average american. and what they're doing is nay ear knee-jerk reacting by going out and acquiring this tool that they think is going to keep them safe, which in theory it will with proper training, which very few people are receiving except us in law enforcement. >> and there are two diffe
on a gun. >> that debate will rage on. we're expecting to hear from the nra, holding a press conference in washington later on today. today, john and certainly at 9:30, about this town, these people and these families. >> 9:30 a.m., a chance for us all to pause and remember. poppy harlow in newtown. >>> first lady michelle obama, writing an open letter published in "the hartford courant." as a mother of two young daughters, my heartaches for you and your families. like so many americans, wish there was something, anything, i could to say to ease your anguish." >>> a major news conference today. the national rifle association will share its ideas on how to prevent future gun tragedies in its first statement after the newtown shootings. they pledge to make "meaningful contributions" to help make sure it never happens again. >>> a u.s. citizen has reportedly been arrested in north korea, unclear what his crime may be. state media reports that the man entered north korea as a tourist on november 3rd. he was detained and they discovered evidence of some crime that he allegedly admitted to. m
, "until the facts are thoroughly known, the nra has no comment." this comes from the national shooting sports foundation. actually, based here. they say this, can you scroll down again so i today that? "our hearts go out to the families of this horrible tragedy in our community. out of respect for the families, the community and the ongoing police investigation, it would be inappropriate to comment." so from both of them, pretty much getting a big resounding no comment at this point. want to get to california republican congresswoman mary bono mack. nice to see you again. we've had an opportunity to talk about a lot of things the last year on my morning program. you're a parent first and foremost. what's your response to what has unfolded in newtown, connecticut? >> hi, soledad. thunderstorm watch for having me here. my response -- thank you for having me here. my response is the same as every american is having now, that is a bone-chilling sadness. i think that we all grieve right now. i think there's a piece of every single parent right now with these parents and these families. and
and six adults dead. it has been ignite and we heard the nra call for armed guards in schools. we have seen a new york newspaper publish a map with the names of registered hand gun owners. that got the nra fired up. they spoke with carol costello and he said it's unfair and unsafe to name gun owners. >> these are all upstanding citizen who passed tests and have their own firearms and by listening, they do two things. most guns are either bought on the black market or stolen. if you are a criminal looking for a gun, you just have been given a map to where you find some. the paper said you would like the makes of guns that people own. have you in essence a catalog. it also tells you who isn't armed and therefore if you are not seeking a gun, but seeking television sets and the like through burglary, you know where to go. i think it was completely irresponsible and while it is probably not legally actionable, the fact is that this newspaper did this knowingly for the purpose of trying to demonize gun owners because they don't happen to believe in firearms. that's their right, but mistreat
-abiding citizen, if you pass a background check, if you take a safety course, and in fairness to the nra, they're big on that. if you take a safety course, if you meet all those requirements, you ought to have a gun in your home for protection. perhaps under certain circumstances, you ought to be able to carry a gun, all those things are fine, but there's a whole range of stuff that falls outside that definition that puts us in far more peril than it is likely to protect our safety. consider the circumstance of aurora. since nobody knew for sure that a guy dressed like the joker was going to come in and start spraying bullets everywhere, in order for those in the theater to be armed and ready to respond, if follows they have to be armed at all times. that means you have a bunch of people walking around in the supermarket, at the starbucks, walking their dog, taking their kid to the park, all armed. over the course of a year, how off do you think that would lead to tragedy and how often do you think it would lead to safety? that's my question. >> pure accident, the three stories i read. preside
% of nra members support solutions like that. unfortunately, sometimes this plays out as a polarized political debate in segments like the one i was part of also on friday night, but the reality is the american public isn't polarized. the only place this is a polarized political debate is in congress. we need to take the voice of the american people who know that, as president obama said tonight, we can be better than this and hold our leaders accountable. >> very interesting to me. this is almost a mirror tragedy of what happened in britain in 1996 and scotland, 16 young 5 and 6-year-old children were killed. it was the worst shooting of its type in modern american history, and as a result, a full handgun ban was brought in. which would not be applicable here, there are too many in circulation. but what was most notable about the debate, it was completely non-political. my question for you, steve, is why does this have to be political? why can it not just be a bipartisan, all encompassing, american dialogue, which leads in the end to pragmatic solution? >> i agree with your last sta
investigation of the fact. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. we're not sure what that means. lillian bittman joins us now the chairman of the newtown board of education and a former sandy hook parent. you were with daniel barden -- >> that's the family we're close to. they were interviewed on another network, and they're -- i'm sorry. >> that's okay. >> their daughter, i had a newspaper -- one of my sons is friends with james. and their daughter was on the sandy hook school newspaper that i ran. and she had wanted to ask president obama a question when they met before the vigil. >> right. >> and she was one of my best reporters. she was one of these gung ho kids and she obviously was intimidated. they were hoping that president obama would hear her words tonight if we could get them read on air. she gave me a letter, unfortunately, there were too many people at the wake for me to actually get up to see the family. so the letter was passed back to me. if you could read it because i can't. >> family gave permission? >> the family w
guns. the nra should stop, they won't. we should stop them from being enablers of mass murder. >> being the national rifle association. congressman, thanks very much for your perspective. >> thank you. >> jerriey edjerry. >>> former chief economist at the u.s. sentencing commission and author of the third edition of the book "more guns, less crimes." thank you very much for coming in. i'll give you a chance to respond. the united states has a lot more murders, you just heard from congressman nadler. he said it's because there are so many guns that are so easiil available out there. >> well, you look at the murder rates in the other countries whether if be germany he just mentioned or others and they had lower murder rates relative to the united states before they had the gun control laws. when britain, other countries, ireland, jamaica, other places imposed gun bans, murder rates went up. americans have seen that in places like chicago and washington, d.c. every place in the world that we have crime data both before and after a gun ban has gone into effect, every single place has seen a
want to do it that way, that's really up to them it seems to me. >> that was nra president david keene speaking earlier today with cnn's carol costello. >>> hitching a hide to washington today with president obama is hawaii's next senator. brian schatz is currently the lieutenant governor. he's due to be sworn in this afternoon about three hours from now. copd makes it hard to breathe, but with advair, i'm breathing better. so now i can be in the scene. advair is clinically proven to help significantly improve lung function. unlike most copd medications, advair contains both an anti-inflammatory and a long-acting bronchodilator working together to help improve your lung function all day. advair won't replace fast-acting inhalers for sudden symptoms and should not be used more than twice a day. people with copd taking advair may have a higher chance of pneumonia. advair may increase your risk of osteoporosis and some eye problems. tell your doctor if you have a heart condition or high blood pressure before taking advair. if you're still having difficulty breathing, ask your doctor if in
for proposing more guns in schools. the nra's ceo wayne lapierre insists a ban on assault weapons won't prevent mass killings, which he blames on violent video games and the media. he says armed guns eed guards are the best way to prevent tragedies. >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. i'll tell you what the american people, what they think it's crazy not to do it. >> and it's the end of an era for "newsweek" magazine. it's very last print e edition. the magazine will become a digital-only publication. this is a black and white photo and it's of the magazine's old new york headquarters. the 80-year-old "newsweek" fell victim to readers who moved online. in a statement, the editor said "we're making our last momentous change, embracing a digital medium that all our competitors one day will need to embrace. we are ahead of the curve." >>> christmas is upon us and can the fiscal cliff be far behind? the short answer is no. before flying off to hawaii, president obama left behind a stopgap plan to, in his words, a
sunday's "meet the press" while interviewing an nra executive he held up a high-capacity magazine which is illegal in the district. the washington metropolitan police department is investigating. >> susan, thank you very much. >>> up next, big news if you drive a toyota or have been watching 360s exclusive reporting of cars that owners say accelerated out of control. a billion dollar 0 settlement to tell you about and more when 360 continues. ♪ if loving you is wrong ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're welcome. that's the cold truth! [ male an
restrictions yet. the nra, which traditionally has the power to hurt democrats in red straigates who support gun control, has been notably silent. after shooting spree in the movie theater in colorado, several lawmakers from red states told me they definitely feel the nra's clout still here on capitol hill, and just being, wolf, in senator feinstein's front office for five minutes, i could see the phones ringing off the hook about her call to revive or reinstate the assault weapons ban. at least make that the first piece of legislation in the new congress but it is very interesting it's not just the nra keeping mum right now, republican senators, most of them who we've talked to, are declining interview requests. they just don't want to talk about it quite yet. >> we'll see what happens down the road. dana, thank you. >>> this unimaginable tragedy. adults are desperately struggling to comprehend, so how do you possibly begin to talk about this with your children? our own dr. sanjay gupta, he's getting some new information for us. he'll be joining us shortly. fr. ♪ ...could end with adding
it done? >> well, they probably don't have the votes today. it will be interesting to see what the nra who is going to be making press announcements tomorrow start to say and whether they start letting some members off the hook on assault weapons bans. i don't know if they will, but i can tell you this. the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like jo
about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well, and hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. here's what we know. that any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues and look at schools. there's a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element of it. you know, what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years is this sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for is here a thoughtful approach that says, we can preserve our second amendment. we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this. that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen again. there is a big chunk of space between what, you know, the second amendment means and having no rules at al
administration officials say they are ready. >> the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. and i would expect that they have been impacted by this as well. and hopefully they will do some self-reflection. >> reporter: president obama made it clear today that he intends to use the bully pulpit to appeal to gun owners on this issue. wolf, it's still to be determined how much of a clash there could be with the nra over this. there is obviously some concern, though, and i think you can see that in just some of the lawmakers, the gun rights lawmakers who are coming out and sort of changing their tune on this issue. many of them, for instance, west virginia senator joe manchin doesn't have to worry about re-election until 2018. we've also heard from steve loutorette. he is retiring. maybe they are not the vulnerable ones and we haven't heard a lot from those who are. >> it was clear to me, brianna, and maybe you as well, the president really has been moved by what happened last friday morning in newtown, connecticut. and he wants to take action now because as one of
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sheriff paul babu of arizona, who's written, "the nra is correct. we need a cop in every school. we have a people problem, not a gun problem." sheriff paul babeu is "outfront" tonight. thank you for joining us. >> thank you, john. >> sheriff, i understand the attractiveness of this proposal, an armed guard, a school member training with a weapon. but let's look at the facts, going back to columbine and virginia tech, columbine, they had two armed guards on the campus at the time, virginia tech had 34 armed guards. yet 13 killed in columbine, 32 at virginia tech. so the evidence, sheriff, suggests that armed guards on campus do not stop school massacres. >> well, you see a school that i grew up in, there was just one building. and some of these campuses or college campuses, as you point out, there could be eight, there could be 20-some odd buildings. and to my point, training and arming designated school administrators or designated teachers, not everyone, some school districts may not want to do this, but for those who do, law enforcement provides them that training, and they would be a
system. gun owners, 74% of nra members support solutions like that. unfortunately, sometimes this plays out as a polarized political debate in segments like the one i was part of also on friday night, but the reality is the american public isn't polarized. the only place this is a polarized political debate is in congress. what we need to do is we need to take the voice of the american people who know that, as president obama said tonight, we can be better than this and hold our leaders accountable. >> to the politics side, this is very interesting to me. this is almost a mirror tragedy of what happened in britain in 1996 and scotland, 16 young 5 and 6-year-old children were killed. it was the worst shooting of its type in modern american history, and as a result, a full handgun ban was brought in. which would not be applicable here, because there are too many in circulation, however, it did happen. but what was most notable about the debate, it was completely non-political. it never descended into left and right. my question for you, steve, is why does this have to be political? why ca
violent criminals off the street. >> the nra wants to see existing gun laws enforced and in the aftermath of the newtown massacre. wants armed guards in schools. >>> in
this particular prop during an interview with the head of the nra. >> so, here is a magazine for ammunition that carries 30 bullets. now, isn't it possible that if we got rid of these, if we replaced them and said, well, you can only have a magazine that carries five bullets or ten bullets, isn't it just possible that we could reduce the carnage in a situation like newtown? >> i don't believe that is going to make one difference. >> why are some gun owners rooting for gregory to be locked up? should a new york newspaper published a map showing the homes of gun owners. the media in the middle of a debate. tomorrow is the last day to avoid what the press has described as an almost apocalyptic outcome. >> to avoid the fiscal cliff -- >> if we go over the fiscal cliff -- >> try to avert the fiscal cliff. >> the clock ticks down to the so-called fiscal cliff. >> closer than ever going over the fiscal cliff. >> the fiscal cliff negotiations are going no where. >> president obama may not have gotten a fiscal cliff deal, but keeping up the media pressure this sunday morning with an interview op"mee
to watch the nra commercial last week, the notion that more guns in the hands of good people will prevent gun crimes just isn't borne out by the facts. >> $100 gift cards are being offered for handguns, rifles and shotguns. up to $200 in gift cards for assault weapons. paul vercammen is live in los angeles. our latest poll shows that 37% of americans want major restrictions on guns. does this mean today's buyback may see more than the usual response after the recent school shooting? >> reporter: we'll have to see about that. certainly the city of los angeles is hoping so. but i can tell you this. this seventh is still 45 minutes away from starting and there are well over a dozen cars in this buyback line. they will receive $100 for a pistol or rifle. and $200 for an assault weapon. over about the last four years, these gun buyback programs have had people turn in more than 8,000 guns. it's all about the anonymity. the drivers come in. they want the guns in the trunk, they want the guns unloaded. but just in case they are loaded, they will dump the guns and the bullets into the trash cans
, the nra has a is ingu lar focus and a -- singular focus and long memory and you cannot say that about the public at large. >> the task of getting them specific legislative resolutions by the state of the union, you can expect he will come out with specifics, i bet they will have a bill by february. is momentum gone by then. >> there will never be more votes for that bill than the day after that shooting. >> what do you think? >> like on the hill -- >> he was resigned, no, no one wants to talk about it on the hill on either side. he was resigned about how congress is broken and he does the best he can and he expects grass roots energy from americans on these issues, that they find the most important. he's -- he doesn't say i'm powerless but you change washington from the outside, not from the inside. he's urging the public to get involved. it is a huge fight and not one he knows he can win. we're going to stay on the cliff for a few more months and he doesn't know what he can get started. >> the final question next, is the debt ceiling. i mean that could happen as early as -- it's alre
? at what point can citizens say it's taking too long or the nra is slow walking this stuff again? it seems to me every time we say it's going to be different also, that's another similarity. >> we had that same conversation after columbine, which i covered. we had that same conversation after aurora and all the other ones in between. same conversation. >> remember that the first gun assault law, assault weapons law took five years to pass. it was first proposed in 1989 after the stockton shooting and senators metzenbound and feinstein worked on it five years. i'm determined, i'm committed. but the president is absolutely right, that the american people have to stand up. i'll tell you what also is different. i've talked to a lot of these families and i am so impressed by their strength and courage and they say to me we want to be there. we want this work to go forward. >> cnn reported last night that there are tens of thousands of criminals who have lied on their background checks. that the fbi has identified and turned over to the department of justice and they simply haven't been prosecut
the discussion. >> we have got to sit down. i ask all my friends in the nra and i'm a proud nra member and always have been, we need to sit down and move this dialogue to a reasonable approach to fixing it. everything has to be on the table and i think it will be. >> in the west, a lot of gun show customers have newtown on their minds and they have their own ideas as to how the shootings could have been prevented. here is cnn's casey wian. >> clm byolumbine, virginia tec sikh temple in wisconsin, an oregon shopping mall, even with the mass shootings it has become easier for most americans to carry a gun, own an assault rifle or use high capacity magazines. but in the aftermath of connecticut, voices, most notably from a tearful president obama, are calling for tighter gun control. you won't hear them at a california gun show held the day after the connecticut massacre. >> everybody is in a panic. i've never seen so many people at a gun show. i think they're worried about their second amendment rights. >> reporter: there is sympathy for the victims. >> it is horrible that those children did die. >
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the president of the nra david keene. >> i'll tell you who i'd like to have indicted and prosecuted, the people in chicago, the criminals in chicago who made that one of the most violent cities in maeshlamerica. in chicago there's less chance that you'll be prosecuted under federal firearms laws than in almost any major city in this country and that's a crime. >> reverend jackson knows that city very well so of course we'll get his response to that, that's coming up in about 90 minutes. >>> shifting gears now, by now you've heard all about the finger pointing over the fiscal cliff, it's happening all day, both sides blame each other for the lack of progress and today, top congressional leaders will head to the white house for a meeting with president obama, trying to strike a deal with just four days to go. getting lost in the rhetoric are everyday americans like my next guest, she says washington needs to know how important the fiscal cliff is to those who are out of work, specifically to the 2 million americans who will lose their federal unemployment benefits an average of about $300 a week
justice for a 23-year-old woman beaten and gang raped on a bus. >>> the nra is making clear they are not about to consider tighter gun laws in the wake of the newton massacre. wayne la pierre repeated his desire for an armed guard in every school. >> i don't know if anybody has ever seen somebody shot. i have. this is a false debate. this is a convenient trick to try to divide our country, where most of us in america, including gun owners that agree on things that would stop the carnage going on all over america. >> booker is offering up an array of ideas, including universal background checks and tighter control laws. and he is exploring a run for the u.s. senate in 2014. >>> former penn state defensive coordinator jerry sandusky, responded to an interview request with a pennsylvania newspaper with a letter from prison, written on a small scrap of paper. sandusky says he wants to talk to the citizens voice newspaper but told to keep quiet by his attorneys as they appeal his conviction for sexually abuses ten boys. he says he spends 23 hours a day in his cell at a supermax s
. and also, west virginia senator joe manchin also a democrat, also a longtime member of the nra, said that he has changed his position after the massacre and now supports gun control legislation. lawmakers are hearing today from more than 20 family members and victims of mass shootings across this country. those people all came together on capitol hill and decided they needed to meet with leaders in congress and leaders in the white house. they are demanding that they seriously address gun violence in america. each person who came had a very emotional story to share and they included a father whose 24-year-old son was killed in arepo aurora, colorado, who shielded his girlfriend who the shooter took so many. a mother gunned down on a chicago bus. a father lost his 15-year-old son during columbine tragedy. and the list went on and on. and the photos kept coming out. their message, about 32 people are killed every single day by guns in this country and that it has got to stop. >> today, there will be 32 more families that know the pain and or that you just heard here today. so we pay a
between the two extremes that exist in the country. one is the nra that believe if you can see lightning and hear thunder, you should own a gun and then the extreme left liberals that think we're just going to wave the magic wand and erase 300 million firearms that we have knowledge of today. you need to sit down in the middle. >> not going to happen. >> you're right. that's unfortunately the truth here. that's why in a sense we're spinning our wheels. there is a remedy to the problem. part of it revolves around our ability to properly vet people and continuous education with people and law enforcement, we are taught and it's impressed upon us the need to safeguard your weapons. the rest of america is on a whole another page. we're on one page, they're on another. we go through one vetting process, they go through basically none. this is the disconnect. >> lou? we're going to have to leave it there. i appreciate the conversation. and i know how you're feeling because i've met your kids. and i've met your wife and i'm sure you ugh hadded them a lot yesterday as well you should and lou pal
to see more legislation. >> reporter: a resounding no comment essentially from the nra which is a very, very possible lobbyist, probably another powerful lobby located in newtown, connecticut, the national sport shooting association, as well. both coming forward today with -- with no comment basically. brianna keilar for us, thank you very much. some action to my left here which is giving me a sense that maybe this press conference is a little bit closer to getting started. i'm seeing folks start to run across this parking lot where we are all kind of set up. and it looks to me like they're kneeling down which is making me think that maybe we're going to hear in a moment from lieutenant vance. he is with the state police, and he's been the guy who's been doing the bulk of the updating on the specifics of the aftermath of this terrible shooting. now one of the things that we know already from a press release that they sent out sort of in lieu of this 8:00 press conference that never happened, they said that the bodies were now out of the school, thank god. had been moved to a morgue. we
for what you say was the big announcement that wasn't. >> yes. i thought wayne lapierre and the nra showed once again that, you know r know, wayne lapierre has been the single biggest gun block to sensible gun control and after the terrible tragedy just days ago, thought he would see movement. instead, they are back out there blaming everybody else but themselves and blaming everybody else, blaming the culture, blaming hollywood and blaming video tames and taking no responsibility and, you know, they have been the number one stumbling block to sensible gun control in this country, and i think finally the country is ready to move beyond it but they are not and that was a -- was, you know, breathtakingly out-of-touch announcement he had the other day, where they want to put more guns in schools. >> public opinion is clearly shifting the other way. anna, let's talk about your naughty pick. maybe we should mention handcuffs for this one. >> e.l. james, "fifty shades of grey." i have to tell you. i read all of the books for research. i -- i was doing an interview, an entertainment interview and
that magazine as a prop during an interview with the head of the nra, wayne lapierre but it's illegal to show them in public in washington even if they're not attached to a weapon. d.c. police says nbc asked if they could use the magazine on the show. they said no, but gregory did it anyway. >> interesting. >> gotten a lot of attention. >> quick show of hands, the newspaper, that published the name of the addresses of people with gun permits. thumbs up, yes or no? good idea or bad idea? >> bad. >> on balance bad. >> you probably heard about this, a lot of outrage. one blogger decided to fight back, you wonder whether that's a good or bad idea as well, when we come back. nts that pink cast. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. aww man. [ male announcer ] r
for a senate seat. i look forward to an amazing campaign. >>> republican congressman ron paul blasting the nra's plan for armed guards at every school. on his website he says, absolute safety is unattainable and pursuing it gives the government way too much control over people's lives. he also criticized those who called for more gun control laws after the shootings. he said, criminals just don't obey the laws. >>> america lost one of its most beloved actors, jack klugman has died. he was in the show "quincy." but he was best known for his role as the sloppy, cigar-chomping sports writer in "the odd couple." a show that never really took off with audiences until years after it ended in reruns and on nick at night. here he is with larry king back in 2004. >> never below. we're never above 45 were we were tony was so worried. i said, listen to the audience how they're laughing. >> you were never a hit. >> never, never. >> klugman was once a five-pack-a-day smoker and heaven chully lost his voice to throat cancer in the '80s but taught himself how to speak again. his son says he died with his wif
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